Winning Stud Strategy: Stealing Antes vs. Stealing Blinds

Good Hold’em players who are used to playing with blinds sometimes make strategic blunders when they play ante games like Stud, Stud8, and Razz. They fail to recognize inherent differences between flop and ante games, and that failure can often cost them money because they misunderstand the optimal pot-stealing frequency in Stud games.

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Stealing the initial pot in Stud games can be profitable if you know what you’re doing. (Image: Shutterstock)

Blinds and antes both induce action by requiring players to put money into the pot before they decide whether, and how, to play their hand. This is done to stimulate action, reward aggression, and deter nitty play. Successful Hold’em players recognize this and adjust their play accordingly. “Stealing the blinds” becomes a part of their arsenal.

Successful Hold’em players sometimes bring this understanding over to a Stud game. Unfortunately for them, while the strategy of stealing the initial pot definitely applies to Stud, it applies differently than it does in Hold’em. Stealing antes is quite different from stealing blinds. Failing to account for the difference between the two is the cause of some major errors that Hold’em players tend to make in Stud games.

In a nutshell, the chief error for Hold’em players transitioning to Stud is in failing to recognize the effect that changing stakes and short-handed play have on the correct stealing strategy.

This is an understandable error. These changes affect Stud games differently from Hold’em games, as I’ll demonstrate. Let’s look at Hold’em first.

The key mathematical consideration when considering a steal attempt is the ratio between the cost of a steal attempt versus the reward of a successful steal. A thinking player needs to consider the size of the bet they need to make to steal the pot versus the size of the pot they will win if their steal attempt is successful. In Hold’em, for the most part, this remains constant regardless of stakes, as the chart below demonstrates.

For the sake of comparison, I am comparing Limit Hold’em to Limit Stud. Obviously, with no-limit, the amount of one’s initial raise is not fixed.


Stakes SB BB Initial Pot Bet Risk to Reward Reward %
$2/$4 $1 $2 $3 $2 2 to 3 150%
$4/$8 $2 $4 $6 $4 2 to 3 150%
$10/$20 $5 $10 $15 $10 2 to 3 150%
$20/$40 $10 $20 $30 $20 2 to 3 150%
$100/$200 $50 $100 $150 $100 2 to 3 150%

As you can see, whether you’re playing as small as $2/4 limit or as big as $100/200, the ratio of the bet size to the pot size remains the same. When a player in an uncalled pot attempts a steal, if they are successful, they are rewarded with 150% of their bet. This remains true regardless of stakes. It’s just as true for much larger stakes than are shown here. $20,000/30,000 follows the same structure as $2/4.

True, this changes when you add antes in a tournament, but even then, the principal remains the same as you increase the stakes with antes. Playing with antes and blinds, a steal attempt at $1,000/2,000 has the same risk to reward ratio as a steal attempt at $100,000/200,000 or $1 million/$2 million.

Nor do these ratios change when you are playing short-handed. They are the same heads-up, 6-handed, 8-handed or 10-handed. Let’s look at a $20/40 Limit Hold’em game to see how this is so.


$20/40 Limit Hold’em Game

Players SB BB Initial Pot Bet Risk to Reward Reward %
10 $10 $20 $30 $20 2 to 3 150%
8 $10 $20 $30 $20 2 to 3 150%
6 $10 $20 $30 $20 2 to 3 150%
2 $10 $20 $30 $20 2 to 3 150%

This is different from the structure of a Stud game in two ways. In Stud, unlike Hold’em, the ratio of risk to reward changes based on the stakes of the game and how many players are in the hand.

How Stakes Change the Risk to Reward Ratio in an Ante Game

Unlike Hold’em, as the stakes go up in Stud, the ratio of the bet to the reward changes. Take a look at the chart below to see how this is so.


Stakes Ante Force Initial Pot Initial Bet Risk to Reward Reward %
$1-3 $0 $1 $1 $4 4 to 1 25%
$1-5 $0.50 $1 $1 $6 6 to 5 83%
$5-10 $0.50 $2 $2 $5 5 to 6 120%
$20/$40 $3 $5 $5 $20 20 to 29 140%
$100/$200 $15 $25 $25 $75 75 to 145 193%

As the stakes increase, the reward for stealing increases dramatically. In the lowest-stakes cash game, with no ante, the reward for an ante steal is minuscule – just 25%. This makes steals all but completely unwarranted. As the stakes go up, ante steals become relatively more worthwhile.

In a $75/150 game, the biggest on this chart, the steal is rewarded almost two to one – at 193% – making it very attractive. Looked at another way, as the size of the initial forced bet and antes increase, the cost of playing an extremely tight game also increases. You can’t just sit and wait for a great starting hand – as you could with a no ante or minimally anted game.

Accordingly, unlike in Hold’em, you must adjust your level of aggression based on the stakes of the Stud game you’re in – becoming more aggressive as the stakes grow (all other factors being equal). Good and experienced Stud players understand this intuitively. The bigger the stakes, the more they must gamble, and the more aggressively they must play.

Size Matters in Stud

Unlike Hold’em, the number of players affects the Stud game structure and, therefore, proper strategy. Remember that in Hold’em, the number of players does not affect the initial pot size. 10-handed or 5-handed, a Hold’em pot starts out the same size – the small blind plus the big blind. In Stud, however, the size of the initial pot is directly a function of how many players are in the hand. The more players, the more antes, and the bigger the initial pot.

Let’s compare what happens to the risk versus reward as a Stud game gets shorter.


$20/40 Stud Game

Players Ante Force Total Initial Bet Risk to Reward Reward %
8 $24 $5 $29 $20 20 to 29 83%
6 $18 $5 $23 $20 20 to 23 87%
5 $15 $5 $20 $20 20 to 20 100%
4 $12 $5 $17 $20 20 to 17 118%
3 $9 $5 $14 $20 20 to 14 143%
2 $6 $5 $11 $20 20 to 11 182%

Consider this $20/40 game, for example. A $20 steal attempt in a full 8-player game wins $29, if successful. But if you’re only playing with half a table, the reward shrinks to $17. Accordingly, all other things being equal, you would bluff less in a short game than in a full game. This is counter-intuitive for the typical Hold’em player who sees a short-handed game as an opportunity to bluff more. Nevertheless, you should bluff less in a short-handed game than in a full game.

Conclusion

Hold’em players, when playing Stud, need to change their thinking regarding pot stealing. In Stud, unlike in Hold’em, both the stakes and the number of competitors has an effect on the correct strategy. In general, the higher the Stud stakes, the more aggressive they need to be. On the other hand, in a shorter game, they should attempt to steal less frequently.

Written by

Ashley Adams

Venerable grinder, 7-stud enthusiast, host of “House of Cards Radio” and author of Winning Poker in 30 Minutes a Day (D&B Publishing, 2020).

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